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DONALD TRUMP’S WALL AND WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN…. a debate inspired by Pat Buchanan’s “What Trump’s Wall Says to the World”

Asmodeous Rex • an hour ago
Donald J. Trump intention to build a wall at the southern border is an insult to all of Latin America.
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Tim in NY to Asmodeous Rex • 13 minutes ago
Uh huh…
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Charles Edward Lincoln, III to Asmodeous Rex • 43 minutes ago
I don’t see that the WALL is anything more than a re-inforced border. By your standard, Mr. Asmodeous, isn’t every border an equal insult?

Does your house have walls? is that not an insult to nature, or at least to your local weather and all your neighbors?

Walls don’t work against every kind of invasion or catastrophe (modern bombs and the IRS can penetrate almost everyone’s walls) but walls do serve to establish and declare one’s claim to private space, of reasonable expectation of peace and tranquility within a space that we can call “home”.

I don’t think Trump’s wall is going to change America—but it MIGHT help prevent MORE change than has already happened, and perhaps we can start deporting millions of people BACK on the other side of the wall who should never have crossed the border.

As a Symbol of National Sovereignty and Identity, I accept the need for a wall, although we will need to back up that SYMBOL with substantial action—I’d like to see every Latin American, African, and Asian Naturalized in 1986 by “Amnesty” to illegal alines or who immigrated after that date, lose his or her citizenship….

America is the New Jerusalem of the Europeans, by the Europeans, and for the Europeans….
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Asmodeous Rex to Charles Edward Lincoln, III • 36 minutes ago
O.K. Your reply is sensible and polite enough but the USA should be building bridges to Latin America; not promoting distrust and hostility. Are you aware that the USA has spent a lot of money and energy and lives trying to prevent that region from turning to communism?
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Charles Edward Lincoln, III to Asmodeous Rex • 26 minutes ago
That’s kind of preposterous: we have thousands of bridges of every type (air, land, and sea) to and from everywhere in Latin America. It’s easier and quicker to reach Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan, Cancun or Acapulco from any major airline “hub” in the USA than it is to reach Alaska, which is one of our own states. It also easier and cheaper to take a cruise in the Caribbean than to Hawaii or American Samoa…or again, along the “inland passage” to Alaska… just compare the effort it will take you to get to Curacao compared to the Aleutian Islands…. I’ve done both trips….

As it happens, I turned 18 as a legal resident of Honduras while working on an archaeological research project at Copan sponsored by Harvard and the World Bank. And since then I have lived about a quarter of my life in Latin America since then, in Belize, Guatemala, and Mexico, Argentina, Bolivia, Colombia, and Venezuela….

And I have been living and or visiting in several Latin American countries during Coups…. or kidnappings (I once watched the helplessly as the German Consul in Guatemala was kidnapped)…. And on top of it all, my grandfather did major business with the U.S. Army, Navy, and Air Force, so yes, I’m quite aware of the U.S. attempts to fight communism all over Latin America….

So what exactly is your point? That because we have more-or-less succeeded in keeping communism from taking root anywhere except for Bolivia and Venezuela, and for a time in Chile—we should let all the rest of them in?

Chileans and Argentinians are pretty much “white people”…. as are MOST Colombians and many upper class Mexicans and Brazilians, for that matter, but other areas are much more racially mixed, and “upper class” immigration into the USA is NOT the source of any problems I’m aware of….
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Asmodeous Rex to Charles Edward Lincoln, III • 17 minutes ago
So then what is your point? What you’re saying is that there is already a lot of trade and commerce with that region. Shouldn’t that continue? Why create new hostilities in a region that wants to further integrate. I do hope sane people will stop all this recent madness.
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Charles Edward Lincoln, III to Asmodeous Rex • a minute ago
I guess we’re basically talking past each other about totally different things. You’re talking about Trade I guess, mostly, but I’m talking about the need to preserve America’s cultural and racial integrity by stopping the flood of immigrants. I don’t despise Latin American elites or peasantry IN THEIR CULTURAL CONTEXT. I think a lot of valuable lessons can be learned from the study of the Ancient AND Modern Maya—among other things, the value they have placed since the Spanish Conquest on resistance to cultural and racial assimilation.

The Maya of Yucatan and Guatemala are a great noble people. But that doesn’t mean they need to all move to Los Angeles. Out of heir historical physical environment and cultural historical context, I don’t think their nobility will survive any more than their culture. Los Angeles and Phoenix do not need to become Maya Cities—or Quechua cities or Nahuatl Cities for that matter.

Los Angeles has now the largest ZAPOTEC SPEAKING population IN THE WORLD…. larger than any city in the Zapotec Native (Mexican) State of Oaxaca. This is bizarre and perverse. The Zapotec will NEVER become real Americans but they won’t be real Zapotec anymore either. The Nahuatl (Aztec) speaking population of Los Angeles is not far behind. This is insanity. This is a perversion of nature.

And as for Trade, which seems to be your focus, I DO disagree with you if you think that NAFTA has been good for Mexico or that CAFTA is good for Central America.

Many if not MOST of our real racial problems, and especially those of Europe, come from the heritage of a Colonialism which was abandoned, not because the British and French and Dutch (or the Belgians or Germans, for that matter) FAILED at their enterprises of Colonialism, but because of the post-World-War II ideological shift….. towards communistic insanity and the demented doctrine of unearned freedom and meritless equality….

But NAFTA and CAFTA are essentially new Colonialist programs WITHOUT the benefits of Colonial Administration and Education. NAFTA and CAFTA have led to the mutual cultural degradation of North America AND Mexico and Central America…. and I applaud President Trump for his willingness to back away from these catastrophic enterprises (and to avoid new ones like the Trans-Pacific, which would have been the same only MUCH BIGGER and hence much worse).

Isolation leads to diversity…. and diversity leads to greater value in exchange…. So I think that we need to return to a world model where each region develops itself according to local traditions and environmental circumstances, and trade is an exchange of positive values developed in different regions, not moving plastics and electronics from cheap labor areas to expensive consumption areas.

So no, I think that fewer bridges and more barriers will benefit EVERYONE.
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Funruffian • 20 hours ago
“To the tens of millions for whom Trump appeals, what the wall represents is our last chance to preserve that nation and people.’

This wall is more than just Political theater and a way to stymie the bureaucratic onslaught of the Multicultural monster. This is a bold statement White America is making against the world who has intentions of undermining and destroying us. Many other nations have criticized America for years, but at the same token they want to reap the rewards and benefits America has to offer. I know that President Trump finds this attitude obscene.
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If I had a Rocket Launcher, I’d aim it at the Federal Reserve (in Homage to Bruce Cockburn)

Bruce Cockburn is a Canadian folk-singer with a high mind and a social conscience.  He undoubtedly considers himself a liberal.   Cockburn might well be appalled to learn that a right-wing radical like myself was incorporating a couple of his songs into his own right-wing ideological repertoire—but then, perhaps this is one of those moments when radicals on both sides find common ground.  The primary difference between Cockburn and myself is that he probably sees the United States as one of the chief purveyors of violence and injustice to the rest of the world; and while this is indisputably and absolutely true, I read his songs as an American Citizen, resident of the future North American Nation of PANEM,  as one of the victims of precisely the same violence and injustice, only visited by my own government on me and “my fellow Americans.”

Bruce Cockburn recorded this first song, “Call it Democracy” on September 11, 2008, the seventh anniversary of that day of infamy known as 9/11/01: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68zccrskOqQ

By an odd coincidence of sorts, this was my first 9/11 back in the USA (Cambridge, Mass., actually) after being forcibly repatriated to the U.S. on the orders of U.S. Southern District of Texas Judge Janis Graham Jack, having spent the previous 9/11 in Cockburn’s home country of Canada with no plans of ever returning to the USA.   I totally agree with what Cockburn says about the IMF and its debilitating effect on the Third World.  But for the IMF and NAFTA, Mexico might well have remained the beautiful, peaceful and quiet place it was right up through Pope John Paul II’s first visit there in January 1979—the month during which Mexico’s creole government’s excellent and highly responsible national birth control program was first attacked to the point of almost instantaneous dismantlement.  

But substitute the words “Federal Reserve” for “IMF” and “Call it Democracy” becomes a description of the degradation of the United States of America by “insupportable debt” under the quintumvirate of Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama over the past 33 years:

Padded with power here they come
International loan sharks backed by the guns
Of market hungry military profiteers
Whose word is a swamp and whose brow is smeared
With the blood of the poor

Who rob life of its quality
Who render rage a necessity
By turning countries into labour camps
Modern slavers in drag as champions of freedom

Sinister cynical instrument
Who makes the gun into a sacrament —
The only response to the deification
Of tyranny by so-called “developed” nations’
Idolatry of ideology

North South East West
Kill the best and buy the rest
It’s just spend a buck to make a buck
You don’t really give a flying fuck
About the people in misery

IMF dirty MF
Takes away everything it can get
Always making certain that there’s one thing left
Keep them on the hook with insupportable debt

See the paid-off local bottom feeders
Passing themselves off as leaders
Kiss the ladies shake hands with the fellows
Open for business like a cheap bordello

And they call it democracy
And they call it democracy
And they call it democracy
And they call it democracy

See the loaded eyes of the children too
Trying to make the best of it the way kids do
One day you’re going to rise from your habitual feast
To find yourself staring down the throat of the beast
They call the revolution

IMF dirty MF
Takes away everything it can get
Always making certain that there’s one thing left
Keep them on the hook with insupportable debt.

The next song: If I had a rocket launcher, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9HFjErMMlA).  Cockburn encapsulates and articulates how I feel about U.S. Foreign Policy in Afghanistan, Iraq, and indeed, all the Central American Countries that were the focus of Cockburn’s lyric folk poetry in the 1980s.  To modernize this 1984 song for the Obamanation we live in today, just substitute the words “stealth drone” for “helicopter”. Afghanistan for Guatemala, and (soon coming to a river near you) “Mississippi” for the “Rio Lacantún”.  As it happens I’ve never been to Afghanistan but I certainly have been all along the Rio Lacantún and I know its people very well.  

When I was indicted in December 1999 I was instructed that I could not own any guns.  My son at 7 was much too young to take my collection and his mother Elena was uninterested.  My grandmother (who died with a gun beside her bed) was too old to worry about such things, although she cared.  Many people in Mexico had previously asked me to bring down American firearms because gun sales were controlled and regulated in Mexico for a long time.  So in January 2000 I arranged to deliver donate my entire firearm collection to the Maya Resistance in Chiapas. The Yucatec Maya with whom I worked at Chichén Itzá and elsewhere were great admirers of their cousins in Chiapas (many of whom were in fact Lacandon Maya who speak a “hill country” dialect of the Yucatec language).   I’m sure my 300 some odd weapons went to good use, so I have no regrets whatsoever about making this gift and passing on a legacy of patriotic resistance from Texas to the Maya Lowlands (which were once joined in an alliance during the 1840s when both areas were secessionist Republics breaking away from Mexico).  In fact, making this donation was one of the ways in which I made sure that I followed my grandfather’s advice in “always turning a bad thing into a good thing.”  

So I ask you: IF YOU HAD A ROCKET LAUNCHER: against whom would you aim it?  And I ask you again: IS IT NOT PART OF OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS THAT WE ALL SHOULD HAVE ROCKET LAUNCHERS, as part of a “Well-Regulated Militia” of Freedom Loving Americans?

Here comes the helicopter — second time today
Everybody scatters and hopes it goes away
How many kids they’ve murdered only God can say
If I had a rocket launcher…I’d make somebody pay

I don’t believe in guarded borders and I don’t believe in hate
I don’t believe in generals or their stinking torture states
And when I talk with the survivors of things too sickening to relate
If I had a rocket launcher…I would retaliate

On the Rio Lacantun, one hundred thousand wait
To fall down from starvation — or some less humane fate
Cry for Guatemala, with a corpse in every gate
If I had a rocket launcher…I would not hesitate

I want to raise every voice — at least I’ve got to try
Every time I think about it water rises to my eyes.
Situation desperate, echoes of the victims cry
If I had a rocket launcher…Some son of a bitch would die.